Comments on: Random Links 161 http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674 happenings in my head and heart this side of heaven Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:50:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Sivin http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4969 Sivin Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:56:06 +0000 http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4969 Steve F. how about Creeds as confessions of faith? That was what they were intended to be ... Steve F. how about Creeds as confessions of faith? That was what they were intended to be …

]]> By: Steve F. http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4968 Steve F. Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:39:12 +0000 http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4968 I'm ok with creeds as descriptions of faith but has plenty of reservations for creeds as prescription to faith. I’m ok with creeds as descriptions of faith but has plenty of reservations for creeds as prescription to faith.

]]> By: Cassius http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4946 Cassius Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:03:23 +0000 http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4946 Many people take for granted that the belief in a crucified and risen savior is faith in a historical person, usually of divine origin, usually of virgin birth or immaculate conception. Stories of crucified and risen saviors (there were many) dying for the sins of humanity have origins in myth. In the days of the early Church, when the New Testament gospels were written (40-70+ years after the alleged time of Jesus), there were more than fifty other gospel stories written about Jesus-- stories that often contradict the existing New Testament stories; gospels denying a physical, fleshly Jesus; gospels denying a resurrected Jesus; stories of a Jesus who was human and not divine, positing a Jesus who taught that salvation came from within, not from belief in him nor a God; such gospels were uncovered in Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945 with their translation completed by 1980; the Nag Hammadi library consists of thirteen ancient codices that contain more than 50 texts, including other gospel stories about Jesus such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and more Almost every event and character from the christian gospel story is a retelling of ancient hero-savior myths that have existed throughout all of time (including the virgin birth of a divine god-Hero, the Hero's quests, the working of miracles, wise sayings, crucifixion/death, descent to hell, and resurrection/rebirth). . Many people take for granted that the belief in a crucified and risen savior is faith in a historical person, usually of divine origin, usually of virgin birth or immaculate conception. Stories of crucified and risen saviors (there were many) dying for the sins of humanity have origins in myth.
In the days of the early Church, when the New Testament gospels were written (40-70+ years after the alleged time of Jesus), there were more than fifty other gospel stories written about Jesus– stories that often contradict the existing New Testament stories; gospels denying a physical, fleshly Jesus; gospels denying a resurrected Jesus; stories of a Jesus who was human and not divine, positing a Jesus who taught that salvation came from within, not from belief in him nor a God; such gospels were uncovered in Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945 with their translation completed by 1980; the Nag Hammadi library consists of thirteen ancient codices that contain more than 50 texts, including other gospel stories about Jesus such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and more

Almost every event and character from the christian gospel story is a retelling of ancient hero-savior myths that have existed throughout all of time (including the virgin birth of a divine god-Hero, the Hero’s quests, the working of miracles, wise sayings, crucifixion/death, descent to hell, and resurrection/rebirth).
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]]> By: Cassius http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4944 Cassius Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:54:19 +0000 http://sivinkit.net/archives/2674#comment-4944 Soren Kierkegaard, the 19th-century Danish writer and religious philosopher, wrote that the "Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist." He questioned how popular Christianity had strayed so far from the way of life described and practiced in the Bible. Transformed by paganism While the practices of the apostles were being banned, traditions from other religions were being incorporated and relabeled as Christian. "Subtly, so subtly that the bishops themselves had not seen them, the old gods had entered their churches like the air of the Mediterranean. And they live still in Christian ritual, in the iconography and the festivals of Christianity Soren Kierkegaard, the 19th-century Danish writer and religious philosopher, wrote that the “Christianity of the New Testament simply does not exist.” He questioned how popular Christianity had strayed so far from the way of life described and practiced in the Bible.

Transformed by paganism

While the practices of the apostles were being banned, traditions from other religions were being incorporated and relabeled as Christian. “Subtly, so subtly that the bishops themselves had not seen them, the old gods had entered their churches like the air of the Mediterranean. And they live still in Christian ritual, in the iconography and the festivals of Christianity

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