Skip to content

Sivin Kit's Garden

Planting Seeds for a Better World

Menu
  • About
  • Church
  • Disclaimer
  • Education
  • Writing
Menu

When the son writes you better listen …

Posted on 18 December, 2005 by admin

I got an interesting email today where my young friend writes RE: Mr. CHEAH MISREPRESENTS MY FATHER’S RELIGIOUS POSITION. I wonder whether Gareth would do the same if I was inaccurately described as a New Age pastor because I appreciate Michael Hedges and Will Ackerman (now that’s another story).

Apparently, the response is triggered by an opinion piece Religion plays a big role in cultivating a person’s character which (to give a benefit of a doubt) seems intended to be moving the discussion on religion’s role forward in our context. But by describing my former lecturer in theology and now Methodist bishop as “a real gentleman, very open-minded and liberal in his theological views.

Dr Hwa, a former principal of Seminari Teoloji Malaysia in Seremban, is among those in the forefront of the Protestant Christian community who are advocating ecumenical unity not only among Christians but also among peoples of all faiths.

Dr Hwa has great influence among the Conservative wing of Protestant Christianity in Malaysia and hence is in a very strategic position to influence and lead the Conservatives into dropping their exclusive doctrinal position and opening up to the process of mergers with peoples of other faiths. “ would definately require clarification.

I doubt Bishop Dr. Hwa Yung is a theological liberal … he’s a gentlemen and is perhaps more open than many conservative Christians in Malaysia (but again it depends on what issue here). Even if he’s more open, my impression of him has never been one who would be an all out “liberal” that’s pretty certian – I studied four years under him and has since been in touch with him, read his books and his articles, and interact with him whenever we have a chance.

QuakYogi captures the confusion and seeks to clarify his father’s postion here:

“Mr. Cheah depicts Dr. Hwa as a sort of theological liberal. Now in Christian theology, the ‘liberals’ are a very specific family of thinkers, which Dr. Hwa is somewhat opposed to. There are two kinds of religious pluralism, and Mr. Cheah fails to clearly articulate Dr. Hwa’s position on religion. Allow me to attempt a correction – I write as if on behalf of Dr. Hwa because Dr. Hwa is currently out of the country, and because Mrs. Hwa has been sending me panicked SMSes.

One kind of religious pluralism is epistemological pluralism. In this view, all religions are equally valid methods for any human being to access the Truth, which is God… or whatever you choose to call The-Ultimate-Object-of-Religion. This is generally not Dr. Hwa’s theological position, nor is it the position of the Methodist Church of Malaysia at large.

A different kind of religious pluralism is political-but-not-epistemological pluralism. In this view, a person can believe that ONLY his own religion gives access to the Truth. Nevertheless, because that person wishes to maintain good social relations with his geographical neighbours, he chooses to live harmoniously in a society with other people who do not share his convictions about the Truth. If I am not mistaken, it is this version of religious pluralism which is embraced by most religious people in Malaysian society. I know for a fact that Dr. Hwa readily supports this point of view.”

Thus, from my view , I think using language like “dropping their doctrinally exclusive position”, “mergers with peoples of other faiths” indeed inaccurately describes what I believe Dr. Hwa is attempting to do. Perhaps a more appropriate description would be “dropping their exclusive attitudes and postures when engaging with people of other faiths” …

That’s just my 2 cents reaction. And authors as well as newspapers should be more careful especially when using terms and terminologies that often already carry with it loads of baggages with it . But then again in this time and age, a letter like the one the son sent and blogs should make some difference right?

3 thoughts on “When the son writes you better listen …”

  1. dbctan says:
    19 December, 2005 at 12:52 pm

    hey sivin, i caught the letter to the editor too, and i remember saying to my wife that was way off – for those of us who know the bishop. but then, leave it to jearng to respond 🙂
    oth, newspapers cannot be expected to be ‘careful’ with terminology esp when terms and labels are so either so fluid (he,he, communitarian?) or not fully understood by the general public. so ‘liberal’ is often liberally mis/understood and applied. i guess people say i’m ‘liberal’ too…

  2. jerng says:
    20 December, 2005 at 10:58 am

    Uncle David’s point is respected. However, I wouldn’t say that the terms are ‘fluid’, but rather that the terms ‘have not been grasped within their context in the history of thought’. E.g. Because if five different groups say ‘liberal’ and mean five different things, we do not want to make ice-kacang from the five meanings under the word; instead, when the word ‘liberal’ comes to mind, we want to be able to call to mind the List of five groups and the specific meaning intended by each group. This is organised knowledge, and a more ideal state of education/information, imho.

  3. Sivin Kit says:
    21 December, 2005 at 9:44 am

    jerng & David – I think moving beyond the immediate concern over the term “liberal”. I feel jerng’s response (hopefully they print the letter) is useful not just for some clarification (because tagging “liberal” next to Bishop Hwa is not a good idea – and I don’t think he’ll be happy about it!), it’s even more useful to crack open the subject on how terms are used and thus in a small way serve as an educational contribution to the public. I did think about whether the author intended it just as a general term but then different readers would interpret it differently and we could use this kind of “tension” to engage in conversation!

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Recent Posts

  • Sivin Kit’s Adventures …
  • Moved to Medium
  • The End | The Beginning
  • I Will be Back …
  • It’s Been a While …

Recent Comments

  • Sivin Kit on Project 365: A photo a day for 2010 – Pilot
  • Malaysia: Government Vows to Review Web Censorship Law After Protest · Global Voices on STOP 114A: INTERNET BLACKOUT DAY
  • List of Participants in Internet Blackout Day! « #Stop114A on STOP 114A: INTERNET BLACKOUT DAY
  • Join Us and Support Internet Blackout Day « #Stop114A on STOP 114A: INTERNET BLACKOUT DAY
  • JB on Imagining My PhD Journey

Enter your email address:

Delivered by FeedBurner

CALENDAR

December 2005
M T W T F S S
 1234
567891011
12131415161718
19202122232425
262728293031  
« Nov   Jan »
  • Academics
  • Bangsar Lutheran Church
  • Beyond
  • Bible
  • Blogging
  • Books
  • Christian Year – Lent
  • Church
  • Conversations
  • Emergent/Emerging Churches
  • Events
  • Family
  • Five Sentences
  • Friends in Conversation
  • Fun stuff
  • Gracious Christianity
  • Ideas
  • Images
  • Leadership
  • Learning
  • Lists
  • Lutheran
  • Lutheran Church in Malaysia & Singapore
  • Malaysia
  • Meditation
  • Micah Mandate
  • Mission
  • Movies
  • Music
  • New Stuff
  • Norway
  • Norwegian Notes
  • Personal
  • Philosophy
  • Podcast
  • Preaching
  • Prezi
  • Project 365
  • Random Links
  • Random Thoughts
  • Random Tweets
  • Random Utterances
  • Religion
  • Resources
  • RoH Malaysia
  • Second Thoughts
  • Seven Series
  • Simple Steps
  • Spirituality
  • Technology
  • Theology
  • Travel
  • Uncategorized
  • Video
  • World
  • Worship
  • Writing

Archives

  • November 2023
  • November 2020
  • November 2014
  • April 2014
  • February 2014
  • April 2013
  • February 2013
  • January 2013
  • December 2012
  • November 2012
  • October 2012
  • August 2012
  • June 2012
  • April 2012
  • March 2012
  • February 2012
  • January 2012
  • December 2011
  • November 2011
  • October 2011
  • September 2011
  • August 2011
  • July 2011
  • June 2011
  • May 2011
  • April 2011
  • March 2011
  • February 2011
  • January 2011
  • December 2010
  • November 2010
  • October 2010
  • September 2010
  • August 2010
  • July 2010
  • June 2010
  • May 2010
  • April 2010
  • March 2010
  • February 2010
  • January 2010
  • December 2009
  • November 2009
  • October 2009
  • September 2009
  • August 2009
  • July 2009
  • June 2009
  • May 2009
  • April 2009
  • March 2009
  • February 2009
  • January 2009
  • December 2008
  • November 2008
  • October 2008
  • September 2008
  • August 2008
  • July 2008
  • June 2008
  • May 2008
  • April 2008
  • March 2008
  • February 2008
  • January 2008
  • December 2007
  • November 2007
  • October 2007
  • September 2007
  • August 2007
  • July 2007
  • June 2007
  • May 2007
  • April 2007
  • March 2007
  • February 2007
  • January 2007
  • December 2006
  • November 2006
  • October 2006
  • September 2006
  • August 2006
  • July 2006
  • June 2006
  • May 2006
  • April 2006
  • March 2006
  • February 2006
  • January 2006
  • December 2005
  • November 2005
  • October 2005
  • September 2005
  • August 2005
  • July 2005
  • June 2005
  • May 2005
  • April 2005
  • March 2005
  • February 2005
  • January 2005
  • December 2004
  • November 2004
  • October 2004
  • September 2004
  • August 2004
  • July 2004
  • June 2004
  • May 2004
  • April 2004
  • March 2004
  • February 2004
  • January 2004
  • December 2003
  • November 2003
  • October 2003
  • September 2003
  • August 2003
  • July 2003
  • June 2003
  • May 2003
  • April 2003
  • February 2003
  • August 2002

Meta

  • Log in
  • Entries feed
  • Comments feed
  • WordPress.org

Pages

  • About
  • Church
  • Disclaimer
  • Education
  • Writing

Social Media

© 2025 Sivin Kit's Garden | Powered by Minimalist Blog WordPress Theme